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Pilot Cutters identified
PHOTOS IDENTIFIED
On page 12 of the October 2004 issue of The Pilot there were two photographs for which information was sought. Once again Harwich Haven pilot Andy Adams has provided the following fascinating and detailed information.
The Clyde Launch:
Prior to WW2 the
The London pilot cutter:
The London No.1 cutter is Pioneer. The Dungeness cruising cutters were based at
The sailing pilot ketches No.3
Whilst on duty at the Shipwash station the Pioneer was tendered by sailing cutters from Harwich. In 1912 the Shipwash station was closed and a single station in the
The Guide and Pioneer then took turns as the Dungeness tender as well as taking rotational duty for the Sunk and Dungeness stations.
With the introduction of a third new cutter in 1914 Guide was sold to
1924 she was renamed Preceder to make way for a new Pioneer.
1925 Sold to Pilotage du Gironde, renamed Chevalier.
1935. Broken up
No 1: Pioneer
Official Number 98971
Length 114’ 03”
Breadth 21’ 00”
Moulded Depth 11’ 04”
Compound 2 cylinders steam reciprocating machinery by M Paul of Dumbarton 82rhp
Signal Letters MHGF
Gross Tonnage 156
Net Tonnage24
PS There was speculation from another correspondent that the Guide and Pioneer were the same vessel but had removable name boards which were swapped over when the vessel changed operating stations. Further to this Andy revisited his archives and has confirmed that:
The Pioneer and Guide were two different vessels but were built together (456 & 457) as sister ships. The interchangeable name boards were the location boards
No.2 The Guide:
1891 Built for the Dungeness station,
1914 replaced by Patrol and sold to J E Bernier of Levis Lauzon,
1923 Sold to Cie Navigation de la Baie de Bras d’ Or.
1926 Sold to
1926 Sunk in St Lawrence.
3 Responses to “Pilot Cutters identified”
I was a boy on the Trinity House PV Prudence in 1945 based at Gravesend and on staion for three weeks at Dungeness and Harwich, coaling at Dover ten days into our tour of duty. There were four such vessels. Prudence, Pioneer, Pathfinder and one other with a name beginning with “P” that I cannot recall. They were sisters along with one of a different design, the PV Lionheart. Any information on these vessels would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Eric
During WW2 my father served as commanding officer of HMS Prudence which had been commandeered by the Royal Naval for wartime use from Trinity House. The ship operated as a calibration ship for ships fitted with HFDF (an early form of Radar) plying between Scapa Flow and Londonderry. The other Trinity House vessel with the name beginning with “P” was Patricia.
The latest vessel of Trinity House bears this name.
Hope this is of help. Can provide much more info about HMS Prudence if required. I, too have a naval backgroud, and logging on to “Bob Hill HMS Scorpion” in Google will provide the details.
Peter Morrison
- My father AJS (Jim) Morrison was a Clyde pilot and I was a boy on the Clyde cutters for short periods in the early 1970′s. I’m sure the photo is of the ‘Gantock’. I particularly remember the very low windscreen, visible behind the seated figure in the photo. I think the accommodation casing in the photo was later replaced with more a stream-lined casing. A new Gantock came into commission in the 1970′s – quite a different style of craft. There are surviving retired pilots of the original Gantock’s era who would be better able than me to fill in the details. The last time I was on the new Gantock was to scatter Dad’s ashes in the Clyde in July 2001, by which time the cutters were stationed at Princess Pier.










Eric Bennett